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	<title>Comments on: Nietzsche lecture coming up</title>
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		<title>By: On a true &#8220;weather&#8221; concern that&#8217;s hot as hellfire and damnation &#171; Precipii&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] an earlier context to one of Hitler&#8217;s own, personal hero&#8217;s, Friedrich Nietzsche (1, 2, 3, 4). He developed a concept of &#8220;man and uberman&#8221;, or superman (overman, really) that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an earlier context to one of Hitler&#8217;s own, personal hero&#8217;s, Friedrich Nietzsche (1, 2, 3, 4). He developed a concept of &#8220;man and uberman&#8221;, or superman (overman, really) that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Huenemann</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Vince! I&#039;d say you&#039;re part wrong and part right about Nz. First, you&#039;re wrong that he holds the individual up in a kind of privileged spot. On the contrary! He most ruthlessly explores and uncovers all the cultural, biological, and psychological forces that go into constituting the self. Indeed, he even denies the existence of the self, calling it a mere artifact of grammar. What he puts in its place is a tangled ball of various drives, each trying to gain control of the whole complex so that it can have its way.

But you&#039;re right that, in the end, he thinks it is up to this &quot;artifact of grammar&quot; to impose values upon the world, and your quote from Mussolini does indeed sound like a scary Nzean echo. How can this &quot;ball of snakes&quot; declare there to be values without those values ending up as arbitrary as a fascist&#039;s? Sometimes, I think, Nz tries to bring in &quot;Life&quot; as a kind of deus-ex-machina to solve this problem: the &quot;right&quot; values are the ones that promote Life, the wrong ones are sick. (My essay on &quot;Valuing from life&#039;s perspective&quot; describes how this works.) But other times Nz seems perfectly content to let the relativistic winds blow, and he seems acutely conscious that the consequence of his view will be wanton cruelty. So, in the end, I think you are right to find the view at least worrisome, and maybe loathsome. (As Kleiner says about me: I walk with Nz up to the end, and then I blink!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Vince! I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re part wrong and part right about Nz. First, you&#8217;re wrong that he holds the individual up in a kind of privileged spot. On the contrary! He most ruthlessly explores and uncovers all the cultural, biological, and psychological forces that go into constituting the self. Indeed, he even denies the existence of the self, calling it a mere artifact of grammar. What he puts in its place is a tangled ball of various drives, each trying to gain control of the whole complex so that it can have its way.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right that, in the end, he thinks it is up to this &#8220;artifact of grammar&#8221; to impose values upon the world, and your quote from Mussolini does indeed sound like a scary Nzean echo. How can this &#8220;ball of snakes&#8221; declare there to be values without those values ending up as arbitrary as a fascist&#8217;s? Sometimes, I think, Nz tries to bring in &#8220;Life&#8221; as a kind of deus-ex-machina to solve this problem: the &#8220;right&#8221; values are the ones that promote Life, the wrong ones are sick. (My essay on &#8220;Valuing from life&#8217;s perspective&#8221; describes how this works.) But other times Nz seems perfectly content to let the relativistic winds blow, and he seems acutely conscious that the consequence of his view will be wanton cruelty. So, in the end, I think you are right to find the view at least worrisome, and maybe loathsome. (As Kleiner says about me: I walk with Nz up to the end, and then I blink!)</p>
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