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	<title>Comments on: Barzun’s ‘The House of Intellect’</title>
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		<title>By: Huenemann</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, what an ass I am!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, what an ass I am!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;My response: ‘Don’t be such a wuss.  Assert what you think is the case, if you are wrong don’t worry, someone will tell you!’&lt;/blockquote&gt;My response: &#039;but, the meek will inherit the earth!&#039;

Kidding aside, I agree with that basic point.  Whenever you state something, &quot;I think&quot; or &quot;I feel&quot; is implied.  And education these days has a lot of wuss to it.  I heard somewhere that while the literacy rate in the US has gone up over time, the complex literacy rate (whatever that is) in the US has gone down.  Incidentally, when I was an undergrad I switched from english to philosophy mostly because of wishy-washy/touchy-feely profs.  I didn&#039;t have that problem with the CS department.  Vicki Allen in particular wields the staff (brilliant lady).

I had a friend who got a paper back from Charlie once that said &quot;D, Nice Try&quot;.  True story.  I&#039;m pretty sure he wasn&#039;t just being lazy either, I think he really did try on that paper.  

I also appreciate it when a prof can look at a student&#039;s attempt to actually learn vs. a student&#039;s attempt to jump through the correct hoops to get the relevant piece of paper.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My response: ‘Don’t be such a wuss.  Assert what you think is the case, if you are wrong don’t worry, someone will tell you!’</p></blockquote>
<p>My response: &#8216;but, the meek will inherit the earth!&#8217;</p>
<p>Kidding aside, I agree with that basic point.  Whenever you state something, &#8220;I think&#8221; or &#8220;I feel&#8221; is implied.  And education these days has a lot of wuss to it.  I heard somewhere that while the literacy rate in the US has gone up over time, the complex literacy rate (whatever that is) in the US has gone down.  Incidentally, when I was an undergrad I switched from english to philosophy mostly because of wishy-washy/touchy-feely profs.  I didn&#8217;t have that problem with the CS department.  Vicki Allen in particular wields the staff (brilliant lady).</p>
<p>I had a friend who got a paper back from Charlie once that said &#8220;D, Nice Try&#8221;.  True story.  I&#8217;m pretty sure he wasn&#8217;t just being lazy either, I think he really did try on that paper.  </p>
<p>I also appreciate it when a prof can look at a student&#8217;s attempt to actually learn vs. a student&#8217;s attempt to jump through the correct hoops to get the relevant piece of paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Kleiner</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.  This socialization was probably done at home a few generations ago.  While I wish more parents took responsibility for it now, it is probably necessary in a post-industrial workforce to have schools play a part in the socialization of students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  This socialization was probably done at home a few generations ago.  While I wish more parents took responsibility for it now, it is probably necessary in a post-industrial workforce to have schools play a part in the socialization of students.</p>
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		<title>By: Huenemann</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you know I share a lot of Barzun&#039;s concerns. I haven&#039;t read the book, but I will. Still, just to argue the other side, I wonder if there is something to the idea of school serving a &quot;socialization&quot; function. It is good for kids to learn about sharing, and reading each others&#039; feelings, and having good self-esteem, and so on. I hasten to add: not to the point of not learning anything!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you know I share a lot of Barzun&#8217;s concerns. I haven&#8217;t read the book, but I will. Still, just to argue the other side, I wonder if there is something to the idea of school serving a &#8220;socialization&#8221; function. It is good for kids to learn about sharing, and reading each others&#8217; feelings, and having good self-esteem, and so on. I hasten to add: not to the point of not learning anything!</p>
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