Plato and Music

In my Plato Republic course, one topic of discussion was the music that Plato selected for the guardian/warriors.  In particular, there was some debate as to whether the modes he chose were appropriate. 

Briefly, Plato was convinced that listening to music in various modes would form the soul and would cultivate and encourage certain virtues and activities.  Most in the class were willing to sign on to this claim.  The more controversial question was whether Plato had really selected the best modes for the purposes of cultivating bravery in the soul of the guardians.

I am, sadly, musically illiterate and so am not capable of really treating this point with much care.  Fortunately there are some students in the class that know more then enough about music.  Dan is one of those students, and also one who thought Plato’s choice of modes was, shall we say, odd.

To sort this out, Dan has compiled 4 songs, one in each of four modes.  He admits that he stacked the deck a bit here with his choices, but still it is telling that songs like “Scarborough Fair” would be in the same mode as Plato’s warrior music!

By way of reminder, Plato had his warriors listening to the Dorian and Phrygian modes only.

In addition to Dan’s “playlist” below, click here for a website that offers some discussion and some examples.  In fact, there is a sidebar where you can listen to the same made up tune in all the different modes.  Dan’s playlist seems like a knock-down argument against Plato’s choices, but when I listen to the same tune in the various modes it is not as obvious (at least to my tin ears).

You can download the songs below.  If you don’t want to do that, go to my blog.  I have embedded the songs there (you don’t have to download them).  But post comments here (that way all comments are in one place).

Ionian Mode-track-1

Lydian Mode-track-02

Dorian Mode-track-03

Phrygian Mode-track-04

Events

WEDNESDAY, 24 SEPT, 4:30 – 5:20 PM, OLD MAIN 201
Club member Jeremiah Graves will be presenting on Haitian Voodoo. Topics include facts and fiction in the practice of Voodoo as well as, according to Jeremiah “self-defense against bullies.” (Sponsored by Religious Studies Club)

THURSDAY, 25 SEPT, 4:00 – 5:00 PM, ENGR 108
A debate will be held between Dr. Harrison Kleiner (representing the atheist position) and Dr. Charlie Huenemann (representing the theist position). They will be debating the rationality of religious belief. (Sponsored by S.H.A.F.T.)

Socrates Cafés, upcoming

Philosophy Club and Phi Sigma Tau met last week to brainstorm over events for the coming year. There was a lot of support for some informal get-togethers, with the aim of providing a time and place for finding other people interested in talking philosophy. (We’re calling them “Socrates Cafés,” following a sizeable national trend, but I think we should come up with our own name for them: “Cave Chats,” perhaps?)

So the first one will be at The Factory pizzeria, below the old Gia’s on Main Street, south of 100 S: Thursday, October 2nd, 7 pm. All are welcome! (I won’t be able to make this one, so if you go, just keep your eyes open for philosophy junkies in need of a fix.)

Get published!

Ball State University has started a new undergraduate journal of philosophy called Stance. If you are working on a paper this term, or have one from a previous semester that you think others should see, you should consider submitting it. I have put their call for papers over here, on the “Undergraduate Philosophy Conferences” page. Stance‘s own website is here.

Or, if you don’t feel quite ready to submit anything, Stance is also looking for external referees. This would mean receiving one or two submissions to the journal, reading through them, and offering your judgment upon their quality and whether they ought to be published. Contact Huenemann if you think you might be interested in doing this.